you said about joe biden he's the gift that keeps on giving. are you hoping that he's going to be giving some sprinkling of presence back to you guys? >> i don't know, but i hope he repeats this latest one where the middle class america has been buried for the last four years. right, job! you might use th you might use that in your opening statement. i have to tell you something, piers. personally joe biden and i have been friends for many, many years. i enjoy his company. he's a very good guy personally, but honest to god, he still is a heartbeat away from the presidency, and with some of the things he says, you know, you're slack-jawed. but i think he'll be well prepared for this debate. i would remind you he didn't do that well against sarah palin, and so -- but also, paul ryan is a real policy wonk. he knows all the details. so if i were advising paul ryan, and i am not -- i mean, they just haven't asked for it -- i would say be careful that you don't come across as somebody who gets down into the weeds about omb numbers and cbo and sequest